Posts by Muddy Waters

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Being pressured and getting increasingly stressed.

by NBird in

hello, i'm a 17 year old born in and i'm done with this religion.

one hundred percent.

i came to the conclusion a year ago that i wanted to leave.

Muddy Waters

BAPTISM IS THE SHUN-GUN TRIGGER that all JWs will point at you and fire without any hesitation. They are programmed and propagandized to do so. It does not matter to them about your age or anyone's age at their baptism. They will shun children -- troubled teenagers who need help! -- if those same teenagers took the step of baptism at whatever age.

If a person tries to rescind their baptism and writes to the society, they are given a huge legal packet basically telling them that they are screwed. That they accepted all the tenets of this religion and consequences. A child (nor even most JW adults) has no knowledge of all the WT legal ramifications and their duplicity if you later try to get out of your baptism.

In short, DO NOT GET BAPTISED!!!

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Ex-Apostate experiences?

by zound in

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expanding on a point someone made in another thread:.

just wondering if anyone ever heard any experiences at assemblies or khalls of apostates that went back to become an upstanding jw.

or even just experiences related amongst jw's.

Muddy Waters

TTATT = The Truth About The Truth

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I just realized....

by Muddy Waters in

i just realized i've basically lost the past 30 years of culture... listening to music, being rediscovered and discovering new music... political stuff happening around the world and yes, dammit, all that political stuff is important!!!

tons of other things that, thanks to the wts's very diligent application of the i part of the bite method (information control) i am only beginning to find out or discover.... .

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Muddy Waters

Makes me sick to remember how righteous I used to feel for not knowing anything about current events. You know, trying to be as innocent as doves, just as the WTS taught and how most of us followed/swallowed it all!

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I just realized....

by Muddy Waters in

i just realized i've basically lost the past 30 years of culture... listening to music, being rediscovered and discovering new music... political stuff happening around the world and yes, dammit, all that political stuff is important!!!

tons of other things that, thanks to the wts's very diligent application of the i part of the bite method (information control) i am only beginning to find out or discover.... .

.

Muddy Waters

I just realized I've basically lost the past 30 years of culture... Listening to music, being rediscovered and discovering new music... Political stuff happening around the world and YES, DAMMIT, all that political stuff is important!!! Tons of other things that, thanks to the WTS's very diligent application of the I part of the BITE method (information control) I am only beginning to find out or discover....

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Another non-JW reacts to Sparlock video

by cedars in

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-ssv2nh0rc.

and two weeks ago i highlighted another video where sparlock helped an ex-mormon.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmesmlhydru.

though it still depresses me to think of all the young ones (including my own relatives) falling under the influence of this dangerous piece of propaganda, it's at least some small comfort that the sparlock video is backfiring so dramatically among thinking non-jws.. .

Muddy Waters

Ah ha! The Society's video segment with the snake is SO DERIVATIVE from the Disney movie, The Jungle Book!

see this scene:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nTjcrNAp4DI&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DnTjcrNAp4DI

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What JW catch phrase DRIVES YOU NUTS!!!!

by megaflower in

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"we should be mindful".

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

Muddy Waters

Utterance.

This is the utterance of Jehovah. (It always made me think that he was mumbling).

And "ones" used to describe people. These ones. Those ones. Jehovah blesses these ones. These humble ones. Why do they just not say "people" or "individuals"? I guess that would personalize real human beings too much. Can't have that!!

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Do you ever look back and cringe...

by laverite in

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do you ever look back and cringe thinking of things you said or how you acted in the door-to-door ministry?.

i recently had two jws at my door and posted about that here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/210246/1/jws-at-my-door.

they were gracious and polite.

Muddy Waters

Gah, it makes my toes curl in total cringe to remember the arrogant self I used to be... So convinced of my rightness. Everybody else wrongness.

One home I went to in FS-- the mom and kids were in the driveway and that month our presentation, which I so studiously memorized, was about Babylon the great, the great harlot. Yes, I actually started speaking about this in front of her little children. Even used the word, harlot. Is anybody cringing with me? Totally horrible to think of it now. The mom, the householder, thankfully put me in my place, said something like, "Oh my god, get out off here! Get away from us!" And it was only then that I realized how I must have sounded.

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Do you remember your Baptism Talk?

by bildad in

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do you remember anything from your baptism talk or the brother who gave it?.

Muddy Waters

Haha! Nope! Other than the "admonition" to remember the date as it was supposed to be the most important calendar date of your life.

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'Apostates want to draw people after themselves'--what are they really implying?

by sd-7 in

when jws say this, what are they really saying?

i was pondering this recently, and i was thinking...what they're really trying to imply is simple:.

apostates are thus accused of attempting to be cult leaders.. because the idea is that since they're not getting people to follow christ, but follow themselves, then they want their 'victims'' belief system to be centered around an individual, following that person's directions.

Muddy Waters

You know, even as a dub, I used to wonder a bit about this, about these bad apostates lurking about, "seeking to draw me away to themself." But where were they? I didn't see any actively trying to draw me away. It was more a case of me having to seek them out!!

Even the ones you'd see occasionally at the DCs would usually stand aside, not directly approaching anybody. Where the heck were all these evil apostate people that were supposed to be everywhere?? I didn't see anyone behind bushes or peeking around corners or following me about, trying to draw me away after themself.

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Another non-JW reacts to Sparlock video

by cedars in

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friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-ssv2nh0rc.

and two weeks ago i highlighted another video where sparlock helped an ex-mormon.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmesmlhydru.

though it still depresses me to think of all the young ones (including my own relatives) falling under the influence of this dangerous piece of propaganda, it's at least some small comfort that the sparlock video is backfiring so dramatically among thinking non-jws.. .

Muddy Waters

This video by the WTS keeps blowing my mind every time I see it.

Has anyone noticed when the snake is tempting Caleb with the toy, the scene and even a portion of the music is VERY DERIVATIVE from the Disney movie, The Jungle Book!? Almost the same scene where Ka, the snake is trying to capture little Mowgli. Can someone find part of that scene from The Jungle Book and post it...? I mean seriously, there are even a few bars of music that sound exactly the same!!

And of course when little Caleb makes his decision to get rid of the toy, the WTS music from the song, Listen, Obey, and Be Blessed, is playing softly in the background....